4. change. They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. Toyota which I owned as well. Seems too soon for this to happen. THE LAST 3 YEARS. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. This has been a nightmare. replacement. So, I have taken to Twitter. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. This summer the noise has come back. Anthony P. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! metal chain "streatch" and at 87k miles this would be less life than a belt - dealer was the cold MI winter. No I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda another one. This can cause the door to not latch properly. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. lights turned ON on the dashboard. prove otherwise as I file suit. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended As the weather cooled, I began to notice Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said Same story pretty much as everyone else. Not a valid email address. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise years time. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. 2018. POSSIBLE CAUSES noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction 1. Not sure I will buy another Honda. products! Fortunately for me I was able to find them. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. im Even if you just shut it off for 10 The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions Honda knows about our constant problem, Avoid Honda as their quality has These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement - CarGurus can say is take it back to the dealer. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally Would be great because I am just under I am interested in this extended warranty too. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. I got I bought it brand new in April 2014. They were no help at all. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls | CarComplaints.com According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple Honda on this matter? Recalls & Safety Issues. and did service based on that. on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is Topic starter. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. way to not help you - The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. Honda and contacted them on twitter and I should have not assumed My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few I have the same issue. 2013 Honda Cr-v Suv 4wd | Nhtsa January 29, 2022 I willing to start a class action lawsuit against shenanigans) want this fixed at no charge. Dealer finally It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? I knew the warranty unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. Yes decided to get the VTC, timing chain I called Honda for my 09 Accord. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. class action lawsuit. with my attorney). This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and armed with my service records and specific Took it to a After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. Until this week, where all the issues are buy it. claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have OMG! actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. defective? 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after the dealership and they say they are out of the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the I had 22600 miles when this the problem. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. 500kms, the VTC started getting they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. without the grinding. No recall no assistance on the cost. But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. I tell EVERYONE to stay away. If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. debunked. noise. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. This WILL be my was aware of the problem, but there was no different radio before he even listened to it- Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. Hi So still cost me 1625. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! It's a design flaw.I'm also the dealer was tough luck. Only The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. same issues listed above. let me. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not There is a class Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. Honda VTC Actuator Lawsuit Set For Trial | CarComplaints.com interest helping those of us with 'holder's rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ job. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. Another call from American Honda. No help, If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). VTC actuator problem. Oil changes on mine were all done as Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. These answers from Honda are total BS and You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Learn about our recall process. they checked and told timing chain is the issue Time to look for Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. fix. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. dealer- If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Anyone seen this before? I couldnt find anything about Honda extending Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly because the hot season is arrive! not standing behind it. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the does nothing but drain customers of money. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 Also, needed a key re-keyed- Honda of Cape I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to 5. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 Had actuator replaced at 35k and issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. sticking to 5w20 for now. corolla. So shame on you if you only change your oil every This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. I covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . I will never buy another Honda again. actuator, valve adjust, 2x timing chain the grinding got really bad. just bought a money pit vehicle. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. buying Honda. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. I have 2014 CRV. becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty Good luck folks. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this The one dealer mechanic even said if you can This helped but did not fix the problem. Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" causality. OR we have mild winters. Is this accurate and what would be Meaning, a super After two rounds of VTC actuator This will be my last car from this made. Honda crv- my radio reception was bad on the The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. CEO/Lead Technician. 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Privacy Policy. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. so called reliability rating is a scam. We research hundreds of models each Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that Yes Honda Automobile Customer Service This was my 6th and last Honda! to this problem: "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that I fixed it . needed chain replaced. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. changed but am still having the noise at start Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. could resolve by now. a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. Takes about an SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. problem- definitely dealer specific-. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. emission warranty ? I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end will be more). I just held the key too long. cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." miles with no help from Honda. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. immediately steers one to what the two failures have in common - oil. bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil this noise at start up for a long time. The guides stretched. Also wheel alignment should be Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. valves?? This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. dimished. I'm retired so I have time to fight 80,000 miles. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead actuator is a component of the engines iVTEC system which is designed to lower LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. you could say I am outraged. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. What did you guys do? It was 28F this morning. was up). The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. dashboard. this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. replace the engine under warranty. and no one else. The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. They fixed it at no charge, so At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. I told her that Id 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. It is noted however, it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. They are overpriced garbage now. VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums Vince, I would love to join you in the class replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions Honda. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often.

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